Comments for Jen and Sean http://cteens.org Our Life... Sort of... Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:21:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 Comment on Our morning visitor by quizwedge http://cteens.org/2010/05/30/our-morning-visitor/comment-page-1/#comment-17 quizwedge Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:21:49 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=66#comment-17 dang it, first comment and I mess it up. By her, I obviously mean your wife. dang it, first comment and I mess it up. By her, I obviously mean your wife.

]]> Comment on Our morning visitor by quizwedge http://cteens.org/2010/05/30/our-morning-visitor/comment-page-1/#comment-16 quizwedge Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:20:15 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=66#comment-16 As a husband, you're also supposed to provide for her and take care of her. So, I think you did the right thing and don't need to rationalize. Other than that, I'm not sure where the line is either. Perhaps knowing where the line is becomes more a matter of listening for God's prompting instead of a hard and fast line. As a husband, you’re also supposed to provide for her and take care of her. So, I think you did the right thing and don’t need to rationalize. Other than that, I’m not sure where the line is either. Perhaps knowing where the line is becomes more a matter of listening for God’s prompting instead of a hard and fast line.

]]> Comment on Netflix queue shuffler by Tweets that mention Jen and Sean » Blog Archive » Netflix queue shuffler -- Topsy.com http://cteens.org/2010/04/18/netflix-queue-shuffler/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Tweets that mention Jen and Sean » Blog Archive » Netflix queue shuffler -- Topsy.com Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:09:12 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=59#comment-15 [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Sean Dean and Sean Dean, Naed Productions. Naed Productions said: Updated the Netflix Queue Shuffler so that it automatically updates your queue after the shuffle. http://ow.ly/1zXBN [...] [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Sean Dean and Sean Dean, Naed Productions. Naed Productions said: Updated the Netflix Queue Shuffler so that it automatically updates your queue after the shuffle. http://ow.ly/1zXBN [...]

]]> Comment on Open Source Church by crchair http://cteens.org/2009/12/07/open-source-church/comment-page-1/#comment-14 crchair Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:53:08 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=43#comment-14 The churches that I see that do well are the ones that exhibit a "vision". It doesn't matter if these have power centralized or spread out. If the culture is one that believes that "vision" is important and works to develop and carry out that vision, then it is successful. The churches that I see that do well are the ones that exhibit a “vision”. It doesn’t matter if these have power centralized or spread out. If the culture is one that believes that “vision” is important and works to develop and carry out that vision, then it is successful.

]]> Comment on Open Source Church by Sean http://cteens.org/2009/12/07/open-source-church/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Sean Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:31:41 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=43#comment-13 I think you're correct about Luther. I think that Calvin was generally the more negative example - see the way he ruled over Geneva also the idea of unconditional election trickles down to the idea of a leader that picks winners and losers. I think you’re correct about Luther. I think that Calvin was generally the more negative example – see the way he ruled over Geneva also the idea of unconditional election trickles down to the idea of a leader that picks winners and losers.

]]> Comment on Open Source Church by mchesner http://cteens.org/2009/12/07/open-source-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12 mchesner Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:18:08 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=43#comment-12 Which kind of leader do you think Luther was? I think he tried to be the good example above, but more often became the negative example above. Calvin, too. Which kind of leader do you think Luther was? I think he tried to be the good example above, but more often became the negative example above. Calvin, too.

]]> Comment on Open Source Church by Sean http://cteens.org/2009/12/07/open-source-church/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Sean Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:33:56 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=43#comment-11 I don't believe having a leader is a bad thing at all - in fact it's necessary to the development of the OSchurch. What I'm saying is that when the leader ends up being the driving force rather than the guiding force things go awry. If we let Joel Osteen or Rick Warren drive where we're going as a church then we're missing out on the input of millions of people that could make the church that much better. But there is a place for them to guide and watch the boundaries of orthodoxy. RE: Your twitter question (http://twitter.com/mchesner/status/6427995136) The problem with discussing the emerging and community church movements is that they're such broad terms. Some emerging churches are great examples of OSC - like Mars Hill Bible Church in Michigan. A great leader that directs but doesn't drive the body, in fact he's stepped back to keep from being the exclusive face of the body. While there are others - like the Mars Hill in Seattle that is driven exclusively by its charismatic leader. So really there's nothing different about emerging churches than from any other church. It's really a question of how the leadership applies itself to the body. I don’t believe having a leader is a bad thing at all – in fact it’s necessary to the development of the OSchurch. What I’m saying is that when the leader ends up being the driving force rather than the guiding force things go awry. If we let Joel Osteen or Rick Warren drive where we’re going as a church then we’re missing out on the input of millions of people that could make the church that much better. But there is a place for them to guide and watch the boundaries of orthodoxy.

RE: Your twitter question (http://twitter.com/mchesner/status/6427995136)
The problem with discussing the emerging and community church movements is that they’re such broad terms. Some emerging churches are great examples of OSC – like Mars Hill Bible Church in Michigan. A great leader that directs but doesn’t drive the body, in fact he’s stepped back to keep from being the exclusive face of the body. While there are others – like the Mars Hill in Seattle that is driven exclusively by its charismatic leader. So really there’s nothing different about emerging churches than from any other church. It’s really a question of how the leadership applies itself to the body.

]]> Comment on Open Source Church by mchesner http://cteens.org/2009/12/07/open-source-church/comment-page-1/#comment-10 mchesner Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:43:24 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=43#comment-10 The ultimate evidence for your "Open Source Church" ideal is the existence of scripture, Old and New Testament. While not all of humanity was literate, since the inception of Judaism and thru the inception of Christianity, any human being could learn the core stories and concepts behind either religion by simply learning how to read. And by translating the Bible into the common tongues, the Reformers put the power into the hands of masses. I am not sure, however, that looking for a leader (i.e. Billy Graham) is contrary to "Open Source". Linux has Linus Torvalds, for example, who helps to unify the major direction of the O/S and is useful in weeding out stupid debates over minutiae. That is the function that leaders like Graham and others have served over the years in Christianity, and it has similarly been successful. The ultimate evidence for your “Open Source Church” ideal is the existence of scripture, Old and New Testament. While not all of humanity was literate, since the inception of Judaism and thru the inception of Christianity, any human being could learn the core stories and concepts behind either religion by simply learning how to read. And by translating the Bible into the common tongues, the Reformers put the power into the hands of masses.

I am not sure, however, that looking for a leader (i.e. Billy Graham) is contrary to “Open Source”. Linux has Linus Torvalds, for example, who helps to unify the major direction of the O/S and is useful in weeding out stupid debates over minutiae. That is the function that leaders like Graham and others have served over the years in Christianity, and it has similarly been successful.

]]> Comment on Some thoughts on salvation and evangelicalism by scotters http://cteens.org/2008/10/01/some-thoughts-on-salvation-and-evangelicalism/comment-page-1/#comment-8 scotters Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:33:41 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=19#comment-8 What you write definitely has validity. After all, it wasn't by church-speak, or programs, size of congregations, or the other encumbrances we add that Jesus said the world would know us: This is how everyone will recognize that you are my disciples—when they see the love you have for each other. John 13:35, Message What you write definitely has validity. After all, it wasn’t by church-speak, or programs, size of congregations, or the other encumbrances we add that Jesus said the world would know us:

This is how everyone will recognize that you are my disciples—when they see the love you have for each other. John 13:35, Message

]]> Comment on The process begins by Jen and Sean » Blog Archive » The process continues http://cteens.org/2008/07/18/the-process-begins/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Jen and Sean » Blog Archive » The process continues Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:15:27 +0000 http://cteens.org/wp/?p=17#comment-7 [...] been a long time since anything has been written about the adoption, so in this post I’ll try to update you with everything that has happened since I last wrote [...] [...] been a long time since anything has been written about the adoption, so in this post I’ll try to update you with everything that has happened since I last wrote [...]

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